Join Me In A Trip Back To 1993...

We are now in England, year 1993. You go out to a local pub to get a few drinks and talk with some friends, maybe even try to find a girl for the night and get jiggy with her later. When you see that a new local black metal band called, Cradle Of Filth, is playing tonight. Interested.. you go check them out. To your fortune, you get a front row position. Knowing that this band might be popular someday, you start recording the concert.. This is the footage you recorded that night.

You love the band so much, that you find out there playing nearby tomorrow again. You go there again to see them play, again you get a good front row spot, and again you start recording, and this is the footage you recorded.

The rest is history...

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Permalink Reply by ADreamOfWolves on March 22, 2012 at 11:15

Yes, Thornography contains keys, but it is the album with the least amount of keys on it! And I never said the instrumentals were amazing or special (I personally like them though), I was just trying to prove why I think TPOEMF is far more symphonic than most of Cradle albums.

Hydra 666 said:

Okay guys, cut the crap.

ADreamofWolves, you agreed that Thornography contains keys. Let's move on now haha.

Although I disagree about POEMF's instrumentals. They're more filler to me, nothing too special like later albums.

Permalink Reply by Final on March 22, 2012 at 16:26

To be honest, I like the instrumentals up to Cruelty (they got a little weird afterwards, think of the Damnation bridges and the Satanic Mantra chant) a lot better than the recent ones. I’ve said it before, but when I think of an instrumental, I mean a probably highly keyboard-relaying piece of music, usually short – and not what is essentially an extreme metal song without vocals, like those on Thornography and onwards.

Hydra 666 said:

Although I disagree about POEMF's instrumentals. They're more filler to me, nothing too special like later albums.

Permalink Reply by HELLHOUND on March 22, 2012 at 17:31

100% correct. Agreed!

Hydra 666 said:

I disagree about POEMF's instrumentals. They're more filler to me, nothing too special like later albums.
Permalink Reply by Psychoscot on March 22, 2012 at 18:50

It's an awesome special edition mate, Starts at Sabbath and and works through the history of doom especially British Doom as the UK is the standard barer and MDB are it's kings! 

http://truecultheavymetal.com/index.php/2012/03/01/out-now-terroriz...

Kevin Hall said:

I know, MDB were huge here when that 1st EP came out, probably more so than most countries outside UK and Europe. Doom, BM, Death are all similar genres as a generalization (Death and Doom are a rather Black sound :P)  

Now Mercyful Fate is BM in ideas but more Symphonic in sound with a really odd sounding vocalist, hail the King, ya gotta luv him, but like saying they are not trve BM because they are Symphonic BM ... silly eh!

Doom is Symphonic BM without the BM and Death is BM without the Black etc ... PMSL

I must look up the Special Edition, I was looking at Terrorizer online and didn't see it :-(

Psychoscot said:

My Dying Bride aren't in anyway shape or form Black Metal Kev, they are a Doom band and always have been since day one, they are one of the most famous Doom bands. lol Symphonic BM also pre-dates them by a decade! Mercyful Fate?

;)
Hence why in the current special edition of Terrorizer which is about the history of doom, there are several articles on them LOL!

Kevin Hall said:

I would say anything with Martin Curtis-Powell (who is doing a Masters degree in musical composition) in it then. Since he came from My Dying Bride who (imo) kicked off symphonic BM, there we have it! Midian through Nymphetamine with DaaD peaking at No.1 ... so Keman is the winner with The Smell of Rain a very, very close second!

More important if he gets his PhD he'll be Doc Martin! He picks on me enough as it is, I've finally got him HAHA ... this is drifting way OT :P



Permalink Reply by ADreamOfWolves on March 22, 2012 at 20:41

I said TPOEMF is "far more symphonic than MOST Cradle albums", not ALL albums. Again, your attempt on trying to make me look ignorant and stupid fails miserably.

Dirge Inferno said:

So Principle is far more symphonic than Dusk?

Permalink Reply by ADreamOfWolves on March 22, 2012 at 20:45

I don't know, I think TPOEMF instrumentals are beautiful and how future Cradle instrumentals should be. Just some simple keyboard/piano melodies, short, but sweet. Not complicated choir and orchestra pieces like Damnation had. I have to agree with Final. The instrumentals up to Cruelty were great. Then they started declining fast. Damnation instrumentals weren't that great, DDVA didn't have any, Godspeed were eh, Nymphetamine had one good one (Painting White Flowers..), and Midian had "At The Gates Of Midian", and that's about it for good instrumentals Midian and on.

HELLHOUND said:

100% correct. Agreed!

Hydra 666 said:

I disagree about POEMF's instrumentals. They're more filler to me, nothing too special like later albums.
Permalink Reply by Kevin Hall on March 23, 2012 at 0:23

DDVA has "instrumentation" but is "layered" under the guitars in the mix. In TPOEMF there are more interludes in between guitar sections and more obvious. Maybe that's what Paul is getting at by "old style" on the new album in that last interview? But no instrumentals as such.

ADreamOfWolves said:

I don't know, I think TPOEMF instrumentals are beautiful and how future Cradle instrumentals should be. Just some simple keyboard/piano melodies, short, but sweet. Not complicated choir and orchestra pieces like Damnation had. I have to agree with Final. The instrumentals up to Cruelty were great. Then they started declining fast. Damnation instrumentals weren't that great, DDVA didn't have any, Godspeed were eh, Nymphetamine had one good one (Painting White Flowers..), and Midian had "At The Gates Of Midian", and that's about it for good instrumentals Midian and on.

HELLHOUND said:

100% correct. Agreed!

Hydra 666 said:

I disagree about POEMF's instrumentals. They're more filler to me, nothing too special like later albums.
Permalink Reply by Lifestalker on March 23, 2012 at 4:43

MOST?

I don't know about that. They either increased or kept their use of keys the same after this album. 

 

Oh and let's sure hope that Cradle don't return to a sound like Principle of Evil Made Flesh, such as raw psuedo-black metal. 

 

Also don't forgot the bass. Please bring it up higher in the mix please!

 

 


 
ADreamOfWolves said:

I said TPOEMF is "far more symphonic than MOST Cradle albums", not ALL albums. Again, your attempt on trying to make me look ignorant and stupid fails miserably.

Dirge Inferno said:

So Principle is far more symphonic than Dusk?

Permalink Reply by Kevin Hall on March 23, 2012 at 8:31

Depends who does the final mix. Hopefully they do pull it up a bit more. Remember  Dani's blog he was a bit pissed of about that topic to say the least, though we were exempt thankfully PMSL

Hydra 666 said:

 

Also don't forgot the bass. Please bring it up higher in the mix please!

 

Permalink Reply by Final on March 23, 2012 at 14:52

I sorta wish Dani would do another blog entry like this again. It was real fun to read (although I wasn’t part of the elated few, the “handful of regulars who keep the conversations and comments fresh and exciting, topical and unbiased”) and answered a few questions.

Kevin Hall said:

Depends who does the final mix. Hopefully they do pull it up a bit more. Remember  Dani's blog he was a bit pissed of about that topic to say the least, though we were exempt thankfully PMSL

Hydra 666 said:

 

Also don't forgot the bass. Please bring it up higher in the mix please!

 

Permalink Reply by GRU on March 23, 2012 at 16:28

Yeah I didn't like it because the one I got smelled like cigs and had fucked up teeth.. Fucken Brits!!!

ADreamOfWolves said:

What do you mean? You were right by my side when I was recording these videos!! Remember we hooked up with those hot goth chicks that night?

GRU said:

I really want to go back to 93.
Sadly, I was only 3 years old when they performed in these videos...

Permalink Reply by Lifestalker on March 23, 2012 at 19:41

Well I mean, I don't think he should be pissed. It gives them the chance for future release to take that into account you know? I mean what is heavy metal without the bass?

 

All the great bands that had that bass way up in the mix, sound so sick.

The only time I really heard it in DDVA was in Lilith Immaculate.

It's very apparent in the first few Cradle albums as well.
 
Kevin Hall said:

Depends who does the final mix. Hopefully they do pull it up a bit more. Remember  Dani's blog he was a bit pissed of about that topic to say the least, though we were exempt thankfully PMSL

Hydra 666 said:

 

Also don't forgot the bass. Please bring it up higher in the mix please!

 

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