Gilles de Rais The most prolific serial killer?
The first child-snatching attributed to Gilles de Rais occurred, historians believe, sometime in 1432, when Gilles de Sille, a cousin of de Rais, reportedly abducted a young apprentice whom de Sille wanted to carry a message to the castle at Machecoul. The anonymous 12-year-old boy, apprenticed to Guillaume Hilairet, a furrier, was the son of Jean Jeudon. When the boy disappeared and Hilairet sought out the nobleman de Sille, he was told the boy had been kidnapped by thieves in the village of Tiffauges. In Gilles’ trial, the events were testified to by Hillairet and his wife, Jean Jeudon and his wife, and five others from Machecoul. There is no evidence linking Gilles de Rais to this kidnapping, but he was charged with the boy’s death.
In Jean Benedetti’s biography of Gilles de Rais, he explains what happened to the children - both boys and girls:
The child was pampered and dressed in better clothes than it had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The child was taken to an upper room to which only Gilles (de Rais) and his immediate circle was admitted. The child would then be confronted with the true nature of its situation. The shock thus produced on the child was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.
An accomplice in many of the crimes, Etienne Corrillaut, known as Poitou, testified that de Rais then raped the child as it was hanged from a hook by the neck. Before the victim died, Gilles took the child down, comforted it, repeated the act and either killed the child himself or had it slain.
Poitou testified that the child victims were murdered “sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”
Gilles de Rais rarely left a child alive for more than one evening’s pleasure, Poitou claimed. Many times they were dealt mortal wounds before de Rais sodomized them. He would then take his pleasure as the child died. Occasionally, he would perform a sex act with a dead child.
In his own confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cruelly cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the sad children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed…” cremation in the chamber of horrors. The fires burned slowly over time so as to minimize the smell, testified Henriet Griart, another co-conspirator. Poitou also claimed the ashes were then dumped in the cesspool or moat.
In Jean Benedetti’s biography of Gilles de Rais, he explains what happened to the children - both boys and girls:
The child was pampered and dressed in better clothes than it had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The child was taken to an upper room to which only Gilles (de Rais) and his immediate circle was admitted. The child would then be confronted with the true nature of its situation. The shock thus produced on the child was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.
An accomplice in many of the crimes, Etienne Corrillaut, known as Poitou, testified that de Rais then raped the child as it was hanged from a hook by the neck. Before the victim died, Gilles took the child down, comforted it, repeated the act and either killed the child himself or had it slain.
Poitou testified that the child victims were murdered “sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”
Gilles de Rais rarely left a child alive for more than one evening’s pleasure, Poitou claimed. Many times they were dealt mortal wounds before de Rais sodomized them. He would then take his pleasure as the child died. Occasionally, he would perform a sex act with a dead child.
In his own confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cruelly cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the sad children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed…” cremation in the chamber of horrors. The fires burned slowly over time so as to minimize the smell, testified Henriet Griart, another co-conspirator. Poitou also claimed the ashes were then dumped in the cesspool or moat.
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Permalink Reply by Saint Dallas on -
well he was a sick basterd. but he makes for good song lyrics.
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Permalink Reply by Inhuman Affliction on -
No doubt. Most interesting.
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Permalink Reply by Lord Snuff on -
True....plus they where (especially in Gillies case) villified by a chruch that wanted his land....so non of it may be true.....Actually De Rais body count is figured at between 80 - 600 wide margin for error, the most prolific serial killer was Dr Harold Shipman at approx 600, though this is also an estimate.
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Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on -
Yeah, but Dr. Harold Shipman is nowhere near as interesting as Gilles de Rais or Elizabeth Bathory. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's one of the most boring serial killers ever. Quality over quantity, that's my motto when it comes to bloodletting!
I mean, giving a bunch of old ladies lethal injections over the period of ... god knows how long? Dull.
Lord Snuff said:True....plus they where (especially in Gillies case) villified by a chruch that wanted his land....so non of it may be true.....Actually De Rais body count is figured at between 80 - 600 wide margin for error, the most prolific serial killer was Dr Harold Shipman at approx 600, though this is also an estimate.
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Permalink Reply by Silent_Sunsetter on -
He's not generally considered a serial killer, but Joseph Mengele killed thousands of people during and after WWII, mostly through "scientific experimentation." talk about sick bastard.
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Permalink Reply by Lord Snuff on
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Again...true, there are a couple of Colombian serail killers that get pretty interesting, especailly as the maximum sentence in Colombia is 30 years...so they will get out 300 + victims.
Sean's Inferno said:Yeah, but Dr. Harold Shipman is nowhere near as interesting as Gilles de Rais or Elizabeth Bathory. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's one of the most boring serial killers ever. Quality over quantity, that's my motto when it comes to bloodletting!
I mean, giving a bunch of old ladies lethal injections over the period of ... god knows how long? Dull.
Lord Snuff said:True....plus they where (especially in Gillies case) villified by a chruch that wanted his land....so non of it may be true.....Actually De Rais body count is figured at between 80 - 600 wide margin for error, the most prolific serial killer was Dr Harold Shipman at approx 600, though this is also an estimate.
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Permalink Reply by Lord Snuff on
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Ah yes the Angel of Death...however sick Mengle was his human subject experiments had there uses. Many of today's surgical techniques are derived from this deiviant.
Silent_Sunsetter said:He's not generally considered a serial killer, but Joseph Mengele killed thousands of people during and after WWII, mostly through "scientific experimentation." talk about sick bastard.
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Permalink Reply by Silent_Sunsetter on
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true, but if he hadn't been medically trained and he hadn't been working under Hitler, he would have been same as gilles de rais and many others.
Lord Snuff said:Ah yes the Angel of Death...however sick Mengle was his human subject experiments had there uses. Many of today's surgical techniques are derived from this deiviant.
Silent_Sunsetter said:He's not generally considered a serial killer, but Joseph Mengele killed thousands of people during and after WWII, mostly through "scientific experimentation." talk about sick bastard.
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