Please stop writing pretentious music that is predictable in structure and sound. Be diverse and DON'T keep thinking that good metal is "FAST" and "BRUTAL". Your best music and songs have been quite diverse and actually more mid-tempo.
It seems like you are stuck with thikning is has to be "Fast". Fuck fast. Play with emotion and fire! Play from teh goddamn soul and not from what people expect it to be.
Your last album has some hope of change from the last 2 albums in that it seems as if you are just making better music. Make it unpredictable and fucking epic... the song structures really suck compared to your first albums and I think that is why your music has been lacking in scope and emotion.
"Beyong Elventh hour" has the chorus riff how many goddamn times? Screw chorus's!
I just decided to write this because the older albums featured what I am talking about and I hope you get the record execs out of ur head, "Forgive Me Father" is lip service to them, only song remotely mainstream. It sticks out like and sore thumb!(I like teh singbut it doesn't fit the record at all!)
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Permalink Reply by ova on July 3, 2011 at 14:57
Permalink Reply by Cruel_Destiny on July 4, 2011 at 22:11 Yeah up all night and decided to rant. Not a college paper.... By saying "It seems like you are stuck with thikning is has to be "Fast". Fuck fast. Play with emotion and fire! Play from teh goddamn soul and not from what people expect it to be."
I mean that every interview from tha past 5 years is all about "this album will be really fast, brutal," and it seems that they are stuck because many bands are faster and the song quality is suffering.
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Permalink Reply by ADreamOfWolves on July 5, 2011 at 0:58 DDVA was repetitive and dull. The best riffs also seemed to be the shortest ones that were soon swept out of the way for dull filler riffs.
Listen to how technical the first few albums were. They wipe the floor with the new ones. They were a band with a point to make and lots of new ideas... Now they are a band who have become comfortable and settled.
Permalink Reply by Cruel_Destiny on July 5, 2011 at 1:03 And Dani seems to be the one who is still up to par with his writing.
ADreamOfWolves said:
Completely agree, and Final, how did you get that picture? That means Cradle was founded in October of 91 then. And Goetia was most likely going to be released in Fall/Winter of '92. Nice find!
J-F said:
DDVA was repetitive and dull. The best riffs also seemed to be the shortest ones that were soon swept out of the way for dull filler riffs.
Listen to how technical the first few albums were. They wipe the floor with the new ones. They were a band with a point to make and lots of new ideas... Now they are a band who have become comfortable and settled.
Permalink Reply by Final on July 5, 2011 at 1:21 Huh, really now? Said it before, but the lyrics of Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa are the band's worst so far. There are some pretty cool lines, but in general, everything after Damnation was, well, worse than Damnation and earlier works.
Since some people (this isn't even directed at any of the forum members here) don't seem to get what I mean by "worst lyrics": Even those so cruelly titled worst lyrics are amazing, creative and beautiful. Just... not on the level they used to be, by far.
ADreamOfWolves: I 'found' the picture by taking it. Gospel of Filth, bible edition, page 45. How's it you out of all people don't have (read) that book...
Cruel_Destiny said:
And Dani seems to be the one who is still up to par with his writing.
Permalink Reply by ADreamOfWolves on July 5, 2011 at 1:22 Huh, really now? Said it before, but the lyrics of Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa are the band's worst so far. There are some pretty cool lines, but in general, everything after Damnation was, well, worse than Damnation and earlier works.
Since some people (this isn't even directed at any of the forum members here) don't seem to get what I mean by "worst lyrics": Even those so cruelly titled worst lyrics are amazing, creative and beautiful. Just... not on the level they used to be. By far.ADreamOfWolves: I 'found' the picture by taking it. Gospel of Filth, bible edition, page 45. How's it you out of all people don't have (read) that book...
Cruel_Destiny said:And Dani seems to be the one who is still up to par with his writing.
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