Church

just wondering..... have enyone ever been in church?
i have been almost every sunday in my whole life (forced)
and my trick for come out of it is to play ill.

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Permalink Reply by Peter on July 22, 2009 at 5:29
I have been raised a Catholic. My Uncle is a Catholic Priest. I have never actually been pressured that I must go to church; but I have been told many times that I should go to church every Sunday. There have been periods of my life when I did attend church often. I actually do no not like going to church or attending Mass. I don't have anything against people that want to go to church or feel it is right for them to do so. The Catholic religion has a lot of "shoulds"; and I don't agree with most of them. I actually get along quite well with my Uncle, but I don't agree with everything he says as far as the Catholic religion goes. I like to think of myself as more open minded when it comes to religion and beleifs without all of the "shoulds". I hope I said all of this OK.
Permalink Reply by Scott Milliorn on July 22, 2009 at 6:38
As I said here already, Hispanic Catholic families are known for exiling family members if they do not stick with the faith of La Familia.
Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on July 22, 2009 at 18:50
Same as my grandmother's funeral recently. It was like they had a fill-in-the blanks template, even though it was her own personal priest. "We'll miss her, but she's fucking GONE - THE LORD TOOK HER! IT WAS HIM WHO DID IT! GOD ROCKS!" essentially. When I made my speech, I made it quite clear that I didn't think she was gone for good because of the effect she's had on everyone, I believe people can still have an effect in a world they don't belong to anymore, and my grandma still affects me even though she's gone. Not in a supernatural way or anything, but just because. If you've lost a relative, I'm sure you'll understand. Anyway, the priest didn't look too happy with that - also because he probably thought I was some kind of devil-worshipper with my piercings and tattoos, and I had quite long, dyed hair back then too.

And then they poured holy water on her coffin to "cleanse" her soul - WTF?! My grandma's soul didn't need fucking cleansing! She was a harmless octogenarian! That fucking pissed me off. But she was a Catholic, this was the kind of funeral she'd wanted so I guess my anger is only personal.

The one darkly humorous thing I encountered on that day was during the cremation. The priest in the chapel starts blabbering on about God again and then asks everyone to bow their head in prayer. Of course, I didn't because i iz goin2 hell n everyfin u no?! (no, I just don't pray), and then I saw him give a sly glance around and then press this fucking huge button on the podium, thus sending my grandma to her final destination (or, more specifically, to be taken out of the coffin and placed into a cardboard box for cremation). I couldn't help but find that a bit funny that such an ancient, perennial tradition has been modernized in such a way! I mean it was a fairly old chapel, yet they have all the latest technology for body disposal ... just struck me as quite amusing!

Although, after she'd actually "gone" that's when the reality of her death really hit me. I was sort of okay when I heard she'd died, I was okay at the "pre-funeral" coffin delivery (I'm sure there's a word for it, where the coffin's brought to the church) and was okay during the ceremony, but once we took her to the crematorium and into that chapel and then the coffin wasn't there anymore, that's when it hit me hardest. It's amazing how the subconscious works.

Ahem ... anyway, my point is I agree about how ridiculous funerals are, more or less just propaganda for the God squad nowadays. I feel they should be much more personal to the deceased, especially if the priest conducting the service is someone who knew them personally! But until that day comes, you just have to personalize it yourself if you make a speech, which is what I did, and it made me feel a bit better about the whole thing.

nymphetamine giiiirl said:
i went once when i was 3 and a man put his keys on the seat and i kept sliding down and taking them, then my mum got so pissed off she just grabbed me and took me home lol, dont even know why we went :s
and when my great grandma died my dad told me they were having a special service for her, so i went, and WTF they said her name ONCE during the i think 2 hour service!!!!!!! they do this scary brainwashing thing where the priest says something and they all mutter some words back, automatically.
fucked up or what?! i ended up listening to my ipod when i got bored (fairly quickly), listened to some marilyn manson :)
Permalink Reply by Duvessa on July 22, 2009 at 19:02
I have only lost great grandparents or grandfather I never really knew so I have never lost anyone. And I don't think I'd be too sad (for myself) to lose grandparents or my parents. Dunno but I've never been sad if someone died (I would tho if my daughter would die or sister but they're too young). It happens to everyone.

But one of my great grandmother was Jehova's witness and her funeral were really weird and boring. I was quite young then but I got more furious when I noticed how "badly" rest of my family (not JWs) got treated in the ceremony. Priest or whatever their similar person is called talked mostly to my great grandmother's "friends" who were JWs and exploited her good will while she lived.
Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on July 22, 2009 at 21:43
Easy for you to say, you haven't lost anyone yet! Just because it happens to everyone doesn't mean you shouldn't be sad when someone dies. I bet you'd get sad if you were separated from your loved one for a while, and death is kind of like that except ... permanent. I didn't think I'd be too sad when my grandmother died because she was in her 80s and had been ill for some time, but then there's little things you take for granted which you really start to miss once they're gone. It made me feel a bit guilty for not seeing her enough, especially in her last years while I was wrapped up in other, more trivial, things.

You might understand once someone you know better dies.

CeriInTheMist said:
I have only lost great grandparents or grandfather I never really knew so I have never lost anyone. And I don't think I'd be too sad (for myself) to lose grandparents or my parents. Dunno but I've never been sad if someone died (I would tho if my daughter would die or sister but they're too young). It happens to everyone.
Permalink Reply by Duvessa on July 22, 2009 at 21:55
I knew my great grandmothers really well thank you. And I think I said I would be sad if my daughter or sister would die. Maybe you should actually read whole post before replying ;) And I didn't know my grandfather ("grandfather I never really knew").

Edit: I just read my own post above and "never really lost anyone" wasn't something I was supposed to write but most people might've never actually even met their great grandparents and I was about 15 when I lost few of mine. Of course not as well as my grandparents but when they get as old as my great grandparents (over 90) I wouldn't be sad, rather see them die than suffer.
Permalink Reply by veritas on December 14, 2009 at 13:52
Been for over 18 years of my life. I haven't been in about 4 yeras now.

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