Anti black/death metal ROCK
What can you say about people who criticize or hate black metal genre/rock music.?
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Permalink Reply by Sardonicus on -
I am by no one's side, but it's a shit thing to think that black/death metal ROCK can't be criticized. If you criticize someone, be ready to be criticized as well.
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Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on -
Well, usually they have a bad impression of it, and actually don't know enough about it to make a valid criticism.
They'll usually say something along the lines of, "no melody", "untalented musicians", "just screaming", "satanic" etc. Even someone who has listened to death/black metal properly and decided that they personally don't like it will know that the musicians are talented and there's more to it than just "noise", but it's just not to their taste.
You'll get your average Kanye West fan telling you "it's shit! Anyone can make that music", but then when you ask them what death or black metal bands they've heard, I guarantee you they won't have an answer. I feel I can criticise certain artists, or genres entire, because I have heard a lot of it. Take this minimalist techno/electro that seems to be becoming so fucking popular - I can't go anywhere without hearing it, a lot of my friends lap it up, so as a result I have heard a lot of it and even know some of the "artists"' names, and therefore I think I have some authority when I say that it is absolute shit.
I'm not surprised that people who listen to that stuff have a hard time listening to heavy metal; metal contains complex structures and usually a fast pace, which must be hard to adapt to after a few years of listening to the same computer-generated sounds played again and again for 3 minutes at a time.
It seems to me that popular music is getting simpler and simpler, and easier and easier to make, which must be doing no good for the collective imagination.
Back in the sixties you had The Rolling Stones, Beatles, The Who, Hendrix
- the seventies gave us Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, even bands like the Bee Gees
- the eighties ... well, heavy metal was the most popular genre
- the nineties you got soft rock, R&B, gangsta rap
- and now in the 2000s we're getting this awful, perverted idea of R&B and this ridiculous minimalist techno nonsense. Also, in England, people like Lilly Allen and about a thousand carbon copies of her "talking about her Friday night" style of music.
You notice a pattern. Between the end of the nineties and now there has been a dramatic drop in actual talent in the mainstream. Listen to any mainstream artist now and try and spot some actual talent. Shit, most genres don't even use actual instruments anymore. And those that do ... well, compare Led Zeppelin to MGMT or one of those other "indie rock" bands.
It's amazing how people will just lap it up. Lil Wayne's started doing rock music too, now, and it's fucking abominable!
But like the trusty YYZ said, you can't change peoples' minds about it. Most of the people who denegrate metal music haven't heard much of it, and already have their mind made up about it given the popular consensus, so even if they were to listen to it, all they would hear is just noise. Music has a great influence on the way peoples' brains work, and by listening constantly to mind-numbing, repetitive beats, your brain is going to become accustomed to that and that alone, and anything else might be too difficult to follow. You'd have to "learn" an appreciation for metal now.
For this reason, I do think that the music you listen to says a lot about you as a person - and listening to some guy with a machine making some noises doesn't really say much about you - and from my experience, the people who do consistently listen to this are fairly dull, narrow-minded people, whereas the majority of metal fans I've met tend to be a lot more clued in, and have a more detailed world perspective, as well as being more open-minded (when it's worth it!) And it's a lot easier to defend metal music than it is to defend that shite (hell, you only have to show them Dani Filth's lyrics for them to realise it's not just nonsensical grunts). I've actually asked people why they listen to it, only to get, "because it's what everyone else listens to!" as a response. I'm not joking! It's quite frightening and sad.
In a way though, it's kind of good to have this division, because it makes the music more special to me. And I can always look at these people whilst listening to my music and just gleefully acknowledge what they're missing out on.
... wow, I didn't mean to speak for that long! Sorry ... people must really be starting to hate me on these boards with my rants!
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Permalink Reply by Jill Shagrath on -
...i agree too..
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Permalink Reply by Shawn on -
they don't know how to listen to some good fucking music, with some fucking power to it
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Permalink Reply by slytanicus on -
I agree, those fuckers deserve a hard kicking where it hurts
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Permalink Reply by Caliban Darklock on -
Um... that they don't like it?
I mean, it seems like that's all you COULD say about them.
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Permalink Reply by **FUck YoU** on -
i really dont give a shit what ppl think of my music i just like whatever i like and i really could care less what ppl think of me
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Permalink Reply by ★ Windir on -
"christian black metal bands"??!!!O_O
Lol it is the first time I see "christian" and "black metal" put all together~
Anyway,music taste cannot be discussed~I don't care what kind of music other people listen~And I don't care what other people think of me for listening black/death metal.
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Permalink Reply by Caliban Darklock on
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★~Nymphetamine~★ said:"christian black metal bands"??!!!
Unblack metal.
Probably because if they called it "white metal" it would sound racist.
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Permalink Reply by Persona Asura on
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Compare lyrics from any akon song to those of any cannibal corpse album. Look at vocabulary. Look at flow. Look at style and intent, and mood. Then tell me that despite its darkness, despite it controversy, that akon is better to listen to.
That is my message.
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Permalink Reply by ★ Windir on
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Caliban Darklock said:★~Nymphetamine~★ said:"christian black metal bands"??!!!
Unblack metal.
Probably because if they called it "white metal" it would sound racist.
Lol,true.
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Permalink Reply by Shawn on
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I would tell you that but it would be a fucking lie, I would rather listen to my cat beg for food then that fucks voice,lol
Persona Asura said:Compare lyrics from any akon song to those of any cannibal corpse album. Look at vocabulary. Look at flow. Look at style and intent, and mood. Then tell me that despite its darkness, despite it controversy, that akon is better to listen to.
That is my message.
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